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	<title>Comments on: Letters from the West Bank &#8211; Seeds of Hope Scattered from the West Bank&#8217;s First PDC</title>
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		<title>By: Craig Embleton</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/06/30/letters-from-the-west-bank-seeds-of-hope-scattered-from-the-west-banks-first-pdc/#comment-71316</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Embleton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great work Murad. Best of luck with the next course.
Best wishes
Craig</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great work Murad. Best of luck with the next course.<br />
Best wishes<br />
Craig</p>
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		<title>By: Peaksurfer</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/06/30/letters-from-the-west-bank-seeds-of-hope-scattered-from-the-west-banks-first-pdc/#comment-66326</link>
		<dc:creator>Peaksurfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 18:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful report!</description>
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		<title>By: Duane Hennon</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/06/30/letters-from-the-west-bank-seeds-of-hope-scattered-from-the-west-banks-first-pdc/#comment-49612</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane Hennon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 22:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very nice post

as for political comment

here is one view of the problem:   

       &quot; One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people.

        He said, &quot;My son, the battle is between two wolves inside us all. 

        &quot;One is Evil -  It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.

        &quot;The other is Good -  It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.&quot;

        The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: &quot;Which wolf wins?&quot;

        The old Cherokee simply replied, &quot;The one you feed.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very nice post</p>
<p>as for political comment</p>
<p>here is one view of the problem:   </p>
<p>       &#8221; One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people.</p>
<p>        He said, &#8220;My son, the battle is between two wolves inside us all. </p>
<p>        &#8220;One is Evil &#8211;  It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.</p>
<p>        &#8220;The other is Good &#8211;  It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.&#8221;</p>
<p>        The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: &#8220;Which wolf wins?&#8221;</p>
<p>        The old Cherokee simply replied, &#8220;The one you feed.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Ritar</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/06/30/letters-from-the-west-bank-seeds-of-hope-scattered-from-the-west-banks-first-pdc/#comment-49570</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Ritar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 22:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful photos of beautiful people doing beautiful things.

Thanks for sharing :)

Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful photos of beautiful people doing beautiful things.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing <img src='http://permaculture.org.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Nick</p>
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		<title>By: david hicks</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/06/30/letters-from-the-west-bank-seeds-of-hope-scattered-from-the-west-banks-first-pdc/#comment-49556</link>
		<dc:creator>david hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read you Craig. I hear you. I am with you ....d</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read you Craig. I hear you. I am with you &#8230;.d</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Mackintosh</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/06/30/letters-from-the-west-bank-seeds-of-hope-scattered-from-the-west-banks-first-pdc/#comment-49551</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Mackintosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 13:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Everyone:&lt;/b&gt; Thank you to everyone who expressed their appreciation for this post. It was a short visit, but I gave it my best shot in the time frame I had. I was &lt;a href=&quot;http://permaculture.org.au/2010/06/13/letters-from-jordan-jordan-welcomes-the-2011-international-permaculture-conference-convergence/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;very busy in Jordan&lt;/a&gt; at the time, but I hope to take up Murad&#039;s invitation for a longer stay next time, where I can give a more in depth approach to what I write. 

&lt;b&gt;Palden Jenkins:&lt;/b&gt; If the material is for Murad&#039;s website only, yes, you can use material from here. Please just give due/clear attribution of me as photographer, or quote me if you&#039;re using text, with a link to this page as its source. Thank you for helping Murad with this. If you will be resizing images, please get in touch with me with the dimensions you need them at, and I&#039;ll optimise them for you and send through (if you resize these they&#039;ll be less than ideal, as I&#039;ve optimised them for this size, and compressed them to within an inch of their life).

&lt;b&gt;David Hicks:&lt;/b&gt; You write: &quot;I would love to comment- as a participant just home in Australia from Marda – but I note the clear injunction to keep ‘it’ apolitical: as though the Occupation is of no significance in Palestine &amp; Marda exists in a neutral context….. O.K!&quot;

Firstly, please note, I am editor as well as author of this post. Secondly, please re-read my caution at top. Nowhere is there an instruction to keep it apolitical. The instruction is purely for those tempted to comment in a way that is &quot;non-productive, antagonistic&quot;, that they should instead keep them &quot;civil, well-intentioned and constructive&quot;. I trust you can see the difference.

If you find it impossible to comment in a way that is constructive and civil, and that will work to &lt;i&gt;find a solution&lt;/i&gt; to the very long-running problem, and can only sink to hostility and negativity (which will only make it worse), then of course it is better not to comment on the political aspects and perhaps focus your comments on the course or Marda Farm instead.

Also please be sensitive to the fact that we want to see Marda grow, rather than get stamped out. And people like myself want to be able to go there, freely, to help - with my camera gear intact. Antagonistic comments help nobody, and can in fact do quite the opposite by making it impossible for us to assist what is excellent root-cause work with a major potential to inspire peace as people concentrate on permaculture-based cooperation and land stewardship instead of resource grabs, competition and extraction. 

I recognise it&#039;s difficult not to get emotionally entangled - but we need to think with our hearts &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; our heads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Everyone:</b> Thank you to everyone who expressed their appreciation for this post. It was a short visit, but I gave it my best shot in the time frame I had. I was <a href="http://permaculture.org.au/2010/06/13/letters-from-jordan-jordan-welcomes-the-2011-international-permaculture-conference-convergence/" rel="nofollow">very busy in Jordan</a> at the time, but I hope to take up Murad&#8217;s invitation for a longer stay next time, where I can give a more in depth approach to what I write. </p>
<p><b>Palden Jenkins:</b> If the material is for Murad&#8217;s website only, yes, you can use material from here. Please just give due/clear attribution of me as photographer, or quote me if you&#8217;re using text, with a link to this page as its source. Thank you for helping Murad with this. If you will be resizing images, please get in touch with me with the dimensions you need them at, and I&#8217;ll optimise them for you and send through (if you resize these they&#8217;ll be less than ideal, as I&#8217;ve optimised them for this size, and compressed them to within an inch of their life).</p>
<p><b>David Hicks:</b> You write: &#8220;I would love to comment- as a participant just home in Australia from Marda – but I note the clear injunction to keep ‘it’ apolitical: as though the Occupation is of no significance in Palestine &#038; Marda exists in a neutral context….. O.K!&#8221;</p>
<p>Firstly, please note, I am editor as well as author of this post. Secondly, please re-read my caution at top. Nowhere is there an instruction to keep it apolitical. The instruction is purely for those tempted to comment in a way that is &#8220;non-productive, antagonistic&#8221;, that they should instead keep them &#8220;civil, well-intentioned and constructive&#8221;. I trust you can see the difference.</p>
<p>If you find it impossible to comment in a way that is constructive and civil, and that will work to <i>find a solution</i> to the very long-running problem, and can only sink to hostility and negativity (which will only make it worse), then of course it is better not to comment on the political aspects and perhaps focus your comments on the course or Marda Farm instead.</p>
<p>Also please be sensitive to the fact that we want to see Marda grow, rather than get stamped out. And people like myself want to be able to go there, freely, to help &#8211; with my camera gear intact. Antagonistic comments help nobody, and can in fact do quite the opposite by making it impossible for us to assist what is excellent root-cause work with a major potential to inspire peace as people concentrate on permaculture-based cooperation and land stewardship instead of resource grabs, competition and extraction. </p>
<p>I recognise it&#8217;s difficult not to get emotionally entangled &#8211; but we need to think with our hearts <i>and</i> our heads.</p>
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		<title>By: david hicks</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/06/30/letters-from-the-west-bank-seeds-of-hope-scattered-from-the-west-banks-first-pdc/#comment-49549</link>
		<dc:creator>david hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Editor, I would love to comment- as a participant just home in Australia from Marda - but I note the clear injunction to keep &#039;it&#039; apolitical : as though the Occupation is of no significance in Palestine &amp;  Marda exists in a neutral context..... O.K!
Murad &amp; Wael, my heartiest admiration to you both &amp; many thank yous for your efforts, your dedication, &amp; your courage in resisting the brutal many decade long Occupation of your homeland Palestine, both through agriculture &amp; by educating all your children - girls &amp; boys equally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Editor, I would love to comment- as a participant just home in Australia from Marda &#8211; but I note the clear injunction to keep &#8216;it&#8217; apolitical : as though the Occupation is of no significance in Palestine &amp;  Marda exists in a neutral context&#8230;.. O.K!<br />
Murad &amp; Wael, my heartiest admiration to you both &amp; many thank yous for your efforts, your dedication, &amp; your courage in resisting the brutal many decade long Occupation of your homeland Palestine, both through agriculture &amp; by educating all your children &#8211; girls &amp; boys equally.</p>
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		<title>By: Neri Bar-On</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/06/30/letters-from-the-west-bank-seeds-of-hope-scattered-from-the-west-banks-first-pdc/#comment-49536</link>
		<dc:creator>Neri Bar-On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 04:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grate Green work

ingredient in our health 

love it

Neri 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grate Green work</p>
<p>ingredient in our health </p>
<p>love it</p>
<p>Neri </p>
<p>tel-aviv</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Scott Steedley</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/06/30/letters-from-the-west-bank-seeds-of-hope-scattered-from-the-west-banks-first-pdc/#comment-49529</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Scott Steedley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 01:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blessings! It is great to see such progress. I met Murad five years ago at the Farm during an Alternative Building Course. I am extremely happy to see his dream being fulfilled! Being the founder of International Center for Sustainability, Inc., CRICS in Costa Rica and a fellow permaculturalist, I know the challenges and adversity one must face in order to create this kind of project. Best of Luck and continued success. Good job Murad and everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blessings! It is great to see such progress. I met Murad five years ago at the Farm during an Alternative Building Course. I am extremely happy to see his dream being fulfilled! Being the founder of International Center for Sustainability, Inc., CRICS in Costa Rica and a fellow permaculturalist, I know the challenges and adversity one must face in order to create this kind of project. Best of Luck and continued success. Good job Murad and everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: audrey</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/06/30/letters-from-the-west-bank-seeds-of-hope-scattered-from-the-west-banks-first-pdc/#comment-49524</link>
		<dc:creator>audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 22:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is so brilliant.... a welcom insight into the positive things happening in palestine...... very easy to get bogged down in all the bad stuff...... all the best to you lot for setting this farm up and helping it grow into such a creative, beautiful thing...... peace to you all xx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is so brilliant&#8230;. a welcom insight into the positive things happening in palestine&#8230;&#8230; very easy to get bogged down in all the bad stuff&#8230;&#8230; all the best to you lot for setting this farm up and helping it grow into such a creative, beautiful thing&#8230;&#8230; peace to you all xx</p>
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