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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/04/28/permaculture-design-certificate-course-dvd-collection/#comment-232355</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kickstarter.com might be a great way to raise funds to make this DVD collection openly available. i&#039;d be more than happy to make a donation.</description>
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		<title>By: Dennis S. D'Ettore</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/04/28/permaculture-design-certificate-course-dvd-collection/#comment-229007</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis S. D'Ettore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 00:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK! I&#039;m all in. This rhetoric has been going on too long now - started with Comment by Brad — April 29, 2010.

I would like to participate in an effort to raise funds to purchase the copyrights for the DVD&#039;s and distribute them Open source.

Someone pleas contact me with any information available on the price - people to contact, and etc, This is not an insurmountable dilemma. It is only a money thing I&#039;m sure.

I will also ask anyone who is willing to participate in the purchase of these right to contact me and we will hammer-out the details on how we can and must do this.

Even you, the guy who said he didn&#039;t have any money, you too I bet you can contribute a dollar or two, get in touch - I&#039;ll tell you how else you can help.

it is important to the survival of many people in the soon to come ending or beginning however you want to characterize it. Don&#039;t take my word for it research Mayan calendar and American Indian predictions.  The point is there is going to be devastation dwelt upon us sooner then everyone thinks.

I know we can come up with a donation program to purchase those rights from the Greed motivated holders of the copyrights. 

Also If anyone knows anyone near Clearwater FL, that has a copy of those DVD&#039;s, that may want to joint venture with me and join an already started community supported permaculture garden I&#039;d appreciate hearing from you soon as possible.

In the meantime Propel the Idea into motion - forward. We, collectively could own those right within one month if everyone was willing to contact others and network this idea.  the program needed to help accomplish the task is out there - I know I have a $69 canned program maybe we can use - but I&#039;m sure there is a better one out there one of us has...  

Our corporation Ideas Into Motion is a not for profit corporation in the state of FL and we stand ready to do this for free and for fun - for the people (survivors)of the country and the world...

 Remember this is the humanitarian thing to do. 

Don&#039;t forget anyone with, or with knowledge of anyone in FL, with those DVD&#039;s Please contact me Asap. ideas into motion dot org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK! I&#8217;m all in. This rhetoric has been going on too long now &#8211; started with Comment by Brad — April 29, 2010.</p>
<p>I would like to participate in an effort to raise funds to purchase the copyrights for the DVD&#8217;s and distribute them Open source.</p>
<p>Someone pleas contact me with any information available on the price &#8211; people to contact, and etc, This is not an insurmountable dilemma. It is only a money thing I&#8217;m sure.</p>
<p>I will also ask anyone who is willing to participate in the purchase of these right to contact me and we will hammer-out the details on how we can and must do this.</p>
<p>Even you, the guy who said he didn&#8217;t have any money, you too I bet you can contribute a dollar or two, get in touch &#8211; I&#8217;ll tell you how else you can help.</p>
<p>it is important to the survival of many people in the soon to come ending or beginning however you want to characterize it. Don&#8217;t take my word for it research Mayan calendar and American Indian predictions.  The point is there is going to be devastation dwelt upon us sooner then everyone thinks.</p>
<p>I know we can come up with a donation program to purchase those rights from the Greed motivated holders of the copyrights. </p>
<p>Also If anyone knows anyone near Clearwater FL, that has a copy of those DVD&#8217;s, that may want to joint venture with me and join an already started community supported permaculture garden I&#8217;d appreciate hearing from you soon as possible.</p>
<p>In the meantime Propel the Idea into motion &#8211; forward. We, collectively could own those right within one month if everyone was willing to contact others and network this idea.  the program needed to help accomplish the task is out there &#8211; I know I have a $69 canned program maybe we can use &#8211; but I&#8217;m sure there is a better one out there one of us has&#8230;  </p>
<p>Our corporation Ideas Into Motion is a not for profit corporation in the state of FL and we stand ready to do this for free and for fun &#8211; for the people (survivors)of the country and the world&#8230;</p>
<p> Remember this is the humanitarian thing to do. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget anyone with, or with knowledge of anyone in FL, with those DVD&#8217;s Please contact me Asap. ideas into motion dot org</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/04/28/permaculture-design-certificate-course-dvd-collection/#comment-192250</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 06:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are getting more than a dozen DVD&#039;s of information here that would required more than a hefty load of books to transcribe. Would you have the time to read all those books?

Another thing is businesses are around to make a profit, if they didn&#039;t make a profit, they wouldn&#039;t be around for very long, and you wouldn&#039;t be able to buy this DVD set in the first place.

For those of you who have studied past high school, you will know exactly how expensive a tertiary eduction can get. (The commodification of knowledge disgusts me by the way).

Last point: 
&quot;If you think education is expensive, try ignorance&quot;. ~ Derek Bok</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are getting more than a dozen DVD&#8217;s of information here that would required more than a hefty load of books to transcribe. Would you have the time to read all those books?</p>
<p>Another thing is businesses are around to make a profit, if they didn&#8217;t make a profit, they wouldn&#8217;t be around for very long, and you wouldn&#8217;t be able to buy this DVD set in the first place.</p>
<p>For those of you who have studied past high school, you will know exactly how expensive a tertiary eduction can get. (The commodification of knowledge disgusts me by the way).</p>
<p>Last point:<br />
&#8220;If you think education is expensive, try ignorance&#8221;. ~ Derek Bok</p>
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		<title>By: anndelise</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/04/28/permaculture-design-certificate-course-dvd-collection/#comment-80434</link>
		<dc:creator>anndelise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevermind on answering those questions I asked.  I finally got the answers, but from someone who&#039;s got the dvds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevermind on answering those questions I asked.  I finally got the answers, but from someone who&#8217;s got the dvds.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/04/28/permaculture-design-certificate-course-dvd-collection/#comment-78585</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 06:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My suggestion for all those in this thread who’d like to see these DVDs given away, is to find someone with money to burn, and invite him/her to, instead of burning it, do something worthwhile – like buying the copyright for these DVDs, and then set it loose on the world.&quot;

How much is it? Like, can&#039;t we start a fund? Everyone who agrees this should be open source, and I believe there are A LOT of people think this way, could hold fundraisers etc. etc. 

I already know someone rich who tried to do this with the course you attended Craig, but for one reason or another was prevented. 

Can&#039;t we make this happen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My suggestion for all those in this thread who’d like to see these DVDs given away, is to find someone with money to burn, and invite him/her to, instead of burning it, do something worthwhile – like buying the copyright for these DVDs, and then set it loose on the world.&#8221;</p>
<p>How much is it? Like, can&#8217;t we start a fund? Everyone who agrees this should be open source, and I believe there are A LOT of people think this way, could hold fundraisers etc. etc. </p>
<p>I already know someone rich who tried to do this with the course you attended Craig, but for one reason or another was prevented. </p>
<p>Can&#8217;t we make this happen?</p>
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		<title>By: anndelise</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/04/28/permaculture-design-certificate-course-dvd-collection/#comment-78505</link>
		<dc:creator>anndelise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 18:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been eyeing these dvds for a bit now, but I have a couple of questions/concerns that haunt me.  Feedback would be appreciated.

1. I own the Soils dvd, it plays on one of our laptops but not our dvd.  Is this course set up in similar format as the Soils one?  (PC playable wise)

2. I love Geoff Lawton&#039;s personality and teaching methods.  However this set is filmed in a classroom only, right?  So there isn&#039;t any viewing of hands on activity nor of processes in effect?  Is there any kind of visual stuff happening for visual learners?  Or is it restricted to lecture only?  (note: an example of things I liked is when Lawton talked about the types of common weeds and the purposes of their roots and what the roots do for the soil..I just can&#039;t find that kind of info elsewhere)  (also: does it provide more detail in things like figuring out the sun&#039;s pathway, shadows, wind, and other sector energy flows?  or will I still have to research that stuff elsewhere?  Basically, telling me to do it doesn&#039;t tell me how to do it, I need more how&#039;s.)

3. Does this course provide more than the typical books do?  Does it go into more detail?  or is it more like a verbalized form of the books?  Books I have are: 
Intro to Permaculture by Bill Mollison; 
The Earth Care Manual by Patrick Whitefield; 
Permaculture Principles and Pathways by David Holmgren; 
Earth User&#039;s Guide to Permaculture by Rosemary Morrow;
and Gaia&#039;s Garden by Hemenway

4.  I recognize that it could be more of a plant oriented or horticulture course that I need to help me actually make use of the info in the books.  So if the dvds offer nothing more than the books I have, my limited funds might be better spent finding a local horticulture course.

Again, feedback would be greatly appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been eyeing these dvds for a bit now, but I have a couple of questions/concerns that haunt me.  Feedback would be appreciated.</p>
<p>1. I own the Soils dvd, it plays on one of our laptops but not our dvd.  Is this course set up in similar format as the Soils one?  (PC playable wise)</p>
<p>2. I love Geoff Lawton&#8217;s personality and teaching methods.  However this set is filmed in a classroom only, right?  So there isn&#8217;t any viewing of hands on activity nor of processes in effect?  Is there any kind of visual stuff happening for visual learners?  Or is it restricted to lecture only?  (note: an example of things I liked is when Lawton talked about the types of common weeds and the purposes of their roots and what the roots do for the soil..I just can&#8217;t find that kind of info elsewhere)  (also: does it provide more detail in things like figuring out the sun&#8217;s pathway, shadows, wind, and other sector energy flows?  or will I still have to research that stuff elsewhere?  Basically, telling me to do it doesn&#8217;t tell me how to do it, I need more how&#8217;s.)</p>
<p>3. Does this course provide more than the typical books do?  Does it go into more detail?  or is it more like a verbalized form of the books?  Books I have are:<br />
Intro to Permaculture by Bill Mollison;<br />
The Earth Care Manual by Patrick Whitefield;<br />
Permaculture Principles and Pathways by David Holmgren;<br />
Earth User&#8217;s Guide to Permaculture by Rosemary Morrow;<br />
and Gaia&#8217;s Garden by Hemenway</p>
<p>4.  I recognize that it could be more of a plant oriented or horticulture course that I need to help me actually make use of the info in the books.  So if the dvds offer nothing more than the books I have, my limited funds might be better spent finding a local horticulture course.</p>
<p>Again, feedback would be greatly appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Charisse Baker</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/04/28/permaculture-design-certificate-course-dvd-collection/#comment-58361</link>
		<dc:creator>Charisse Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 18:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VERY new to permaculture ... Just bought the dvds ... if anyone is interested in watching it in London, England that can be arranged. :)
Requesting local libraries to purchase it for loan is a great idea and I&#039;m sure they would be receptive!
My thanks to all the filmmakers involved in this project!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VERY new to permaculture &#8230; Just bought the dvds &#8230; if anyone is interested in watching it in London, England that can be arranged. <img src='http://permaculture.org.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Requesting local libraries to purchase it for loan is a great idea and I&#8217;m sure they would be receptive!<br />
My thanks to all the filmmakers involved in this project!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/04/28/permaculture-design-certificate-course-dvd-collection/#comment-52021</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would love to see that this dvd course would substitute for the actual course to get a diploma. I have been developing my own project for the past 3 years using permaculture techniques and permaculture techniques alone. Reading studying all winter long every winter...and even giving some intro to permaculture lectures at a local adult education center.
But someone pays several thousand dollars and get the diploma?!
Is this in the spirit of native philosophy?
Not Lakota philosophy!
This is what they cant stand...white man goes to school for a weekend and comes home an expert....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would love to see that this dvd course would substitute for the actual course to get a diploma. I have been developing my own project for the past 3 years using permaculture techniques and permaculture techniques alone. Reading studying all winter long every winter&#8230;and even giving some intro to permaculture lectures at a local adult education center.<br />
But someone pays several thousand dollars and get the diploma?!<br />
Is this in the spirit of native philosophy?<br />
Not Lakota philosophy!<br />
This is what they cant stand&#8230;white man goes to school for a weekend and comes home an expert&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Dilley</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/04/28/permaculture-design-certificate-course-dvd-collection/#comment-50835</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Dilley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tagari needs to fix the region 0 warning information on their web site.

The Matshita / Matsushita / Panasonic manufactured drives are used in Macs as well as PCs. 

Some PCs will have troubles with some Matshita drives playing region 0 DVDs as will the Macs. On other Matshita drives the PCs can read the discs when the Macs are not.

It has to do with the manufacturers wanting to enforce region lock in controls on the marketplace.

You could look for workarounds and firmware upgrades made by individuals.

For PC users:
http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=34750

For Mac users:
http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?f=30&amp;t=46116

However, if you own a PC or Mac with one of these drives that are enforcing region lock out it will be a lot easier in my opinion to not stuff around with potentially stuffing up your computer drive and buying an external case with USB 2.0 interface and buying another brand of inexpensive DVD drive and putting it in that case.

I did this years ago with a Pioneer drive.

With any drive you buy you have to ask or look online to see if it is region free or plays all regions or will end up being a drive that enforces region lockouts.

You could also just buy a cheap chinese dvd player for even less and just watch it on the TV.

Cheers,
Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tagari needs to fix the region 0 warning information on their web site.</p>
<p>The Matshita / Matsushita / Panasonic manufactured drives are used in Macs as well as PCs. </p>
<p>Some PCs will have troubles with some Matshita drives playing region 0 DVDs as will the Macs. On other Matshita drives the PCs can read the discs when the Macs are not.</p>
<p>It has to do with the manufacturers wanting to enforce region lock in controls on the marketplace.</p>
<p>You could look for workarounds and firmware upgrades made by individuals.</p>
<p>For PC users:<br />
<a href="http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=34750" rel="nofollow">http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=34750</a></p>
<p>For Mac users:<br />
<a href="http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?f=30&amp;t=46116" rel="nofollow">http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?f=30&amp;t=46116</a></p>
<p>However, if you own a PC or Mac with one of these drives that are enforcing region lock out it will be a lot easier in my opinion to not stuff around with potentially stuffing up your computer drive and buying an external case with USB 2.0 interface and buying another brand of inexpensive DVD drive and putting it in that case.</p>
<p>I did this years ago with a Pioneer drive.</p>
<p>With any drive you buy you have to ask or look online to see if it is region free or plays all regions or will end up being a drive that enforces region lockouts.</p>
<p>You could also just buy a cheap chinese dvd player for even less and just watch it on the TV.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Fredd</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/04/28/permaculture-design-certificate-course-dvd-collection/#comment-50818</link>
		<dc:creator>Fredd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 02:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a magnificent product. I&#039;d love to get my hands on it, unfortunately I can&#039;t afford it right at this minute. 

I will have to see if members of the local community gardens would like to chip in for this. 

Or perhaps the city library. It would be a great resource.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a magnificent product. I&#8217;d love to get my hands on it, unfortunately I can&#8217;t afford it right at this minute. </p>
<p>I will have to see if members of the local community gardens would like to chip in for this. </p>
<p>Or perhaps the city library. It would be a great resource.</p>
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