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	<title>Comments on: Vuon &#8211; Ao &#8211; Chuong &#8211; The Traditional Vietnamese Farm</title>
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		<title>By: sb abdu</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2008/10/04/vuon-ao-chuong-the-traditional-vietnamese-farm/#comment-248915</link>
		<dc:creator>sb abdu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 05:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not a matter of who is who, but rather is the system working for sustainability. That is most important of it. If it works fine, we are thinking of Adopting ans putting in to use fine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not a matter of who is who, but rather is the system working for sustainability. That is most important of it. If it works fine, we are thinking of Adopting ans putting in to use fine</p>
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		<title>By: Mouy Mann</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2008/10/04/vuon-ao-chuong-the-traditional-vietnamese-farm/#comment-39482</link>
		<dc:creator>Mouy Mann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Siam is not Khmer. Historically, it was Khmer empire during Angkor time, not Siam. I think you are reading a very confusing history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Siam is not Khmer. Historically, it was Khmer empire during Angkor time, not Siam. I think you are reading a very confusing history.</p>
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		<title>By: HUYNH</title>
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		<dc:creator>HUYNH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I would say this is not Vietnamese technology…the Chinese are doing it also ( Vietnamese are actually descendant of Chinese to start with…)....&quot;

Comment by lamare — October 24, 2008 @ 9:06 pm

How are you sure about this? ( Vietnamese are actually descendant of Chinese to start with…)</description>
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<p>Comment by lamare — October 24, 2008 @ 9:06 pm</p>
<p>How are you sure about this? ( Vietnamese are actually descendant of Chinese to start with…)</p>
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		<title>By: John Macgregor</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Macgregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great stuff.

Would be interested if anyone has applied this in Cambodia (where I work).

Is VAC translatable to here?

In asking Cambodian farmers why they don&#039;t breed fish (many have ponds), they say it&#039;s because the fish escape when the pond floods every Rainy Season. Any solutions to that one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff.</p>
<p>Would be interested if anyone has applied this in Cambodia (where I work).</p>
<p>Is VAC translatable to here?</p>
<p>In asking Cambodian farmers why they don&#8217;t breed fish (many have ponds), they say it&#8217;s because the fish escape when the pond floods every Rainy Season. Any solutions to that one?</p>
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		<title>By: Faith Rosenquist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faith Rosenquist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder about the parasites that would normally be present in great quantities in the pig manure rendering it a truly dangerous &quot;food&quot;, if you could call it that...also about the &quot;farming&quot; of fish.  Are the fish being fed grains or is this not like western fish farming.  Grain fed fish are not producing the same nutritional profile as nature produced fish.  Otherwise, this seems like a great idea.  Could you speak to my concerns?

Thanks,

Faith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder about the parasites that would normally be present in great quantities in the pig manure rendering it a truly dangerous &#8220;food&#8221;, if you could call it that&#8230;also about the &#8220;farming&#8221; of fish.  Are the fish being fed grains or is this not like western fish farming.  Grain fed fish are not producing the same nutritional profile as nature produced fish.  Otherwise, this seems like a great idea.  Could you speak to my concerns?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Faith</p>
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		<title>By: lamare</title>
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		<dc:creator>lamare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say this is not Vietnamese technology...the Chinese are doing it also ( Vietnamese are actually descendant of Chinese to start with...) and the Siam were doing it also ( today they are the Khmer, the Thai , the Laos and the Birman ).
Probably the biggest earth work ...canals, retention bassins etc was done by the Siam Empire way back and its capital was Angkor...in the center of it. 100&#039;s x sq km.
Some of it is still functional today...

If you look at a general map of Cambodia, you will see a huge lake in the centre...the Tonle Sap... with one river coming out of it of the same name actually. That river joins the Mekong at Phnom-Penh...present day capital of Cambodia.

the Monsoons on the Himalayas feed the Mekong whose water level rises... higher than the Tonle Sap...both river and lake...the water course reverse and the lake expand 50 folds during monsoon season... just when fish are reproducing... highest concentration of fish worldwide when the monsoon stops and the only exit from the lake...one Tonle Sap river, the rest of the year.
They do eat a lot of hog over there...chicken also actually.

The water retention is being manage so as to produce riz, and the use of fish in rice culture has to be mentioned...with its obvious agricultural implications fungus control and other pests, as well as fertilizer...although this latest is only second to sedimentary deposit by the Mekong.

Cambodia has always been the rice basket of SE Asia... and the envy of its neighbour&#039;s...an 800years war with Viet Nam in its history tells you the importance of that basket, and the latest invasion of Cambodia by Viet Nam...Pol Pot and the Red Khmere, although being a good excuse was not the only reason... the Chinese understood it very well and sent the Army marching south into Viet Nam...20 km south of the border, in matter of hours, and stopped there ... out of Cambodia or else. Viet Nam complied.

There is so much things unknown about SE Asia by the rest of the world... Ankhor Watt, Ankhor Thom are just 2 temples out of so many, how many I do not know...x100&#039;s for certain, maybe 2000 of them... it is huge by any standard...the water retention reseau... on a grand scale too and that include the Tonle Sap which can be seen from space in the dry season.

Yours trully</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say this is not Vietnamese technology&#8230;the Chinese are doing it also ( Vietnamese are actually descendant of Chinese to start with&#8230;) and the Siam were doing it also ( today they are the Khmer, the Thai , the Laos and the Birman ).<br />
Probably the biggest earth work &#8230;canals, retention bassins etc was done by the Siam Empire way back and its capital was Angkor&#8230;in the center of it. 100&#8217;s x sq km.<br />
Some of it is still functional today&#8230;</p>
<p>If you look at a general map of Cambodia, you will see a huge lake in the centre&#8230;the Tonle Sap&#8230; with one river coming out of it of the same name actually. That river joins the Mekong at Phnom-Penh&#8230;present day capital of Cambodia.</p>
<p>the Monsoons on the Himalayas feed the Mekong whose water level rises&#8230; higher than the Tonle Sap&#8230;both river and lake&#8230;the water course reverse and the lake expand 50 folds during monsoon season&#8230; just when fish are reproducing&#8230; highest concentration of fish worldwide when the monsoon stops and the only exit from the lake&#8230;one Tonle Sap river, the rest of the year.<br />
They do eat a lot of hog over there&#8230;chicken also actually.</p>
<p>The water retention is being manage so as to produce riz, and the use of fish in rice culture has to be mentioned&#8230;with its obvious agricultural implications fungus control and other pests, as well as fertilizer&#8230;although this latest is only second to sedimentary deposit by the Mekong.</p>
<p>Cambodia has always been the rice basket of SE Asia&#8230; and the envy of its neighbour&#8217;s&#8230;an 800years war with Viet Nam in its history tells you the importance of that basket, and the latest invasion of Cambodia by Viet Nam&#8230;Pol Pot and the Red Khmere, although being a good excuse was not the only reason&#8230; the Chinese understood it very well and sent the Army marching south into Viet Nam&#8230;20 km south of the border, in matter of hours, and stopped there &#8230; out of Cambodia or else. Viet Nam complied.</p>
<p>There is so much things unknown about SE Asia by the rest of the world&#8230; Ankhor Watt, Ankhor Thom are just 2 temples out of so many, how many I do not know&#8230;x100&#8217;s for certain, maybe 2000 of them&#8230; it is huge by any standard&#8230;the water retention reseau&#8230; on a grand scale too and that include the Tonle Sap which can be seen from space in the dry season.</p>
<p>Yours trully</p>
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