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	<title>Comments on: Convergence of Issues Leads to Southern California Permaculture Convergence, August 29-31, 2008</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Menchetti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Menchetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey craig, mike from the Quailsprings PDC, I love this story, the positive people doing positive dynamic things in line with their vision and sustainability.  I think folks can get overwhelmed and turn off to discouraging news, but inspired and motivated by stories like this, thanks, peace out, mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey craig, mike from the Quailsprings PDC, I love this story, the positive people doing positive dynamic things in line with their vision and sustainability.  I think folks can get overwhelmed and turn off to discouraging news, but inspired and motivated by stories like this, thanks, peace out, mike</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Mackintosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Mackintosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Frank and Linda. You&#039;d need to do a PDC course to get the finer details, but the main principles for regenerating land like this is to implement water harvesting strategies that &#039;slow it, spread it, sink it&#039; (the water, that is). The Quail Springs team have already begun by putting in several &#039;gabions&#039; (otherwise known as &#039;leaky weirs&#039;), which are rock walls placed across a stream - not to stop the water, but to slow it. These walls also stop the soil from being carried away - silt builds up behind the wall, which can later be transferred to other parts of the property to improve fertility.

The Quail Springs property can be without rain for several months at a time, and when the rain does come, it comes all at once. This water can just fly through the property, taking lots of soil with it, and be gone before it&#039;s had a chance to soak in. These gabions are built with large rocks, allowing water to filter through (you can see an example of one of these &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.permaculture.org.au/images/quail_springs_course5.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, a picture from a &lt;a href=&quot;http://permaculture.org.au/2008/08/23/regenerative-learning-at-quail-springs/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;previous post&lt;/a&gt;). Several of these placed in the right locations slow the water so it has a chance to soak in. Additionally, if some of the gabions have swales running off from them, then the gabions can be used to direct a portion of the larger water flows out onto the land, where it can soak in and start to make the area productive, and also help to raise the water table below the property.

These earthworks are the first step. Once you have water in the soil you can begin to raise the organic matter content of the soil by growing appropriate plant species and with the addition of compost. Humus can hold up to 90% of its own weight in water, making a huge difference to the otherwise sandy soil, and the shade of crops and trees can dramatically reduce the amount of water lost through evaporation.

Of course, to green an entire region would take an epiphany amongst a great many property owners. Such a collaborative effort is perhaps not realistic - although as the lands further deteriorate, and other factors like peak oil and climate change exacerbate the already difficult enconomic situation, you never know what may happen in the future...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Frank and Linda. You&#8217;d need to do a PDC course to get the finer details, but the main principles for regenerating land like this is to implement water harvesting strategies that &#8217;slow it, spread it, sink it&#8217; (the water, that is). The Quail Springs team have already begun by putting in several &#8216;gabions&#8217; (otherwise known as &#8216;leaky weirs&#8217;), which are rock walls placed across a stream &#8211; not to stop the water, but to slow it. These walls also stop the soil from being carried away &#8211; silt builds up behind the wall, which can later be transferred to other parts of the property to improve fertility.</p>
<p>The Quail Springs property can be without rain for several months at a time, and when the rain does come, it comes all at once. This water can just fly through the property, taking lots of soil with it, and be gone before it&#8217;s had a chance to soak in. These gabions are built with large rocks, allowing water to filter through (you can see an example of one of these <a href="http://www.permaculture.org.au/images/quail_springs_course5.jpg" rel="nofollow">here</a>, a picture from a <a href="http://permaculture.org.au/2008/08/23/regenerative-learning-at-quail-springs/" rel="nofollow">previous post</a>). Several of these placed in the right locations slow the water so it has a chance to soak in. Additionally, if some of the gabions have swales running off from them, then the gabions can be used to direct a portion of the larger water flows out onto the land, where it can soak in and start to make the area productive, and also help to raise the water table below the property.</p>
<p>These earthworks are the first step. Once you have water in the soil you can begin to raise the organic matter content of the soil by growing appropriate plant species and with the addition of compost. Humus can hold up to 90% of its own weight in water, making a huge difference to the otherwise sandy soil, and the shade of crops and trees can dramatically reduce the amount of water lost through evaporation.</p>
<p>Of course, to green an entire region would take an epiphany amongst a great many property owners. Such a collaborative effort is perhaps not realistic &#8211; although as the lands further deteriorate, and other factors like peak oil and climate change exacerbate the already difficult enconomic situation, you never know what may happen in the future&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2008/08/31/convergence-of-issues-leads-to-southern-california-permaculture-convergence-august-29-31-2008/#comment-26162</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree - great report!  And I too would love to hear what permaculture solutions you might suggest for an area like New Cuyama and all the other &quot;desertified&quot; areas of Southern California that were once lush and green.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree &#8211; great report!  And I too would love to hear what permaculture solutions you might suggest for an area like New Cuyama and all the other &#8220;desertified&#8221; areas of Southern California that were once lush and green.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent report Craig. I hope you can post a follow-up article to this story showing how Permaculture Design Principles could bring this region back into stability, the river to flow naturally once again and the arid mountain range brought back life with a living forest system - the way it once was. You&#039;ve highlighted the problem - now we need to see the solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent report Craig. I hope you can post a follow-up article to this story showing how Permaculture Design Principles could bring this region back into stability, the river to flow naturally once again and the arid mountain range brought back life with a living forest system &#8211; the way it once was. You&#8217;ve highlighted the problem &#8211; now we need to see the solution.</p>
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