Comments on: Developed? http://permaculture.org.au/2008/08/19/developed/ Permaculture News, Commentary and Worldwide Projects. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:36:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Øyvind Holmstad http://permaculture.org.au/2008/08/19/developed/#comment-43340 Øyvind Holmstad Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:09:32 +0000 http://permaculture.org.au/?p=561#comment-43340 ”But, by contrast, in the early phases of industrial society which we have experienced recently, the pattern languages die.” Instead of being widely shared, the pattern languages which determine how a town gets made become specialized and private. Roads are built by highway engineers; buildings by architects; parks by planners; hospitals by hospital consultants; schools by educational specialists; gardens by gardeners; tract housing by developers. The people of the town themselves know hardly any of the languages which these specialists use. And if they want to find out what these languages contain, they can’t, because it is considered professional expertise. The professionals guard their language jealously to make themselves indispensable. Even within any profession, professional jealousy keeps people from sharing their pattern languages. Architects, like shefs, jealously guard their recipes, so that they can maintain unique style to sell. The languages start out to being specialized and hidden from the people; and then within the specialities, the languages become more private still, and hidden from another, and fragmented. From the book “The Timeless Way of Building” by Christopher Alexander, page 231 – 232. How happy I am that Permaculture has arisen in the world, so that we can create new, SHARED pattern languages, to heal OUR world! ”But, by contrast, in the early phases of industrial society which we have experienced recently, the pattern languages die.”

Instead of being widely shared, the pattern languages which determine how a town gets made become specialized and private. Roads are built by highway engineers; buildings by architects; parks by planners; hospitals by hospital consultants; schools by educational specialists; gardens by gardeners; tract housing by developers.

The people of the town themselves know hardly any of the languages which these specialists use. And if they want to find out what these languages contain, they can’t, because it is considered professional expertise. The professionals guard their language jealously to make themselves indispensable.

Even within any profession, professional jealousy keeps people from sharing their pattern languages. Architects, like shefs, jealously guard their recipes, so that they can maintain unique style to sell.

The languages start out to being specialized and hidden from the people; and then within the specialities, the languages become more private still, and hidden from another, and fragmented.

From the book “The Timeless Way of Building” by Christopher Alexander, page 231 – 232.

How happy I am that Permaculture has arisen in the world, so that we can create new, SHARED pattern languages, to heal OUR world!

]]> By: Nathan http://permaculture.org.au/2008/08/19/developed/#comment-26865 Nathan Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:49:31 +0000 http://permaculture.org.au/?p=561#comment-26865 Craig, Do some research that is not funded by the people who own you ( The oil , Government) and you will find it is so much better as a fuel than anything I am using Typha which grows like crazy around me to make the fuel with a wood fire. Read David Blumes book and if you still dont like Ethanol your a dead set Idiot Craig,

Do some research that is not funded by the people who own you ( The oil , Government) and you will find it is so much better as a fuel than anything I am using Typha which grows like crazy around me to make the fuel with a wood fire.

Read David Blumes book and if you still dont like Ethanol your a dead set Idiot

]]> By: Craig Mackintosh http://permaculture.org.au/2008/08/19/developed/#comment-26566 Craig Mackintosh Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:05:01 +0000 http://permaculture.org.au/?p=561#comment-26566 Thanks Zachary. Re ethanol, I am fully against it, and for many reasons. Watch out for some posts on this coming up. Thanks Zachary. Re ethanol, I am fully against it, and for many reasons. Watch out for some posts on this coming up.

]]> By: Geoff Lawton http://permaculture.org.au/2008/08/19/developed/#comment-26563 Geoff Lawton Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:42:47 +0000 http://permaculture.org.au/?p=561#comment-26563 The truth is that the design evolution of humanity through permaculture allows for all of us to romanticize the absolute abundance that we all capable of by working together and supporting ourselves. "Personal independence depends on co-operative human society.... only what we share gives us access to all necessary possessions." Bill Mollison The truth is that the design evolution of humanity through permaculture allows for all of us to romanticize the absolute abundance that we all capable of by working together and supporting ourselves.

“Personal independence depends on co-operative human society…. only what we share gives us access to all necessary possessions.”
Bill Mollison

]]> By: Cymon Fjell http://permaculture.org.au/2008/08/19/developed/#comment-26519 Cymon Fjell Sun, 07 Sep 2008 12:00:01 +0000 http://permaculture.org.au/?p=561#comment-26519 G'day, Please. i live in both. I would never romanticise the life of the boy on the Miskito Coast when I worked there who had a parasitic worm crawling out of a hole in his eyeball. Equally tragic are the many in the "developed" world who suffer . . . both rich and poor. No-one has an exclusive mate. C'ya, Cymon Fjell G’day,

Please. i live in both. I would never romanticise the life of the boy on the Miskito Coast when I worked there who had a parasitic worm crawling out of a hole in his eyeball. Equally tragic are the many in the “developed” world who suffer . . . both rich and poor.

No-one has an exclusive mate.

C’ya,
Cymon Fjell

]]> By: Zachary Stowasser http://permaculture.org.au/2008/08/19/developed/#comment-25856 Zachary Stowasser Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:36:16 +0000 http://permaculture.org.au/?p=561#comment-25856 Charming.. :) Thanks for all the great posts craig! I have reposted some over at my blog. What is your opinion on alcohol/ethanol ? david blume is a permaculturist from santa cruz, ca (near where I live) and is incredibly optimistic about it.. I have the video as the first post on my site. Charming.. :)
Thanks for all the great posts craig! I have reposted some over at my blog. What is your opinion on alcohol/ethanol ? david blume is a permaculturist from santa cruz, ca (near where I live) and is incredibly optimistic about it.. I have the video as the first post on my site.

]]> By: Sue http://permaculture.org.au/2008/08/19/developed/#comment-25843 Sue Tue, 19 Aug 2008 04:44:20 +0000 http://permaculture.org.au/?p=561#comment-25843 Nicely put.... I wonder how we can create demand for a lifestyle of less specialisation that will drive organisations and individuals to supply the time, knowledge and raw materials necessary to help people practice the skills they aren't specialised in. Nicely put…. I wonder how we can create demand for a lifestyle of less specialisation that will drive organisations and individuals to supply the time, knowledge and raw materials necessary to help people practice the skills they aren’t specialised in.

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